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Unveiling the Trinity of Terror: Project 2025's Impact on American Democracy and Rights (ok AI, you little drama queen! LOL!) Or just a different PUNK perspective of Project 2025 and the Election.

• Robin Duncan and Jim Murphy

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Tune in and TURN IT UP!  No seriously, you may need to turn this up.  My mixer said nope, but this is to important not to release this now!  The election and Project 2025 needs to be talked about with a different perspective, so this is your podcast!  And now for the overly dramatic AI Description.   Enjoy!

Is the "Trinity of Terror" shaping the future of American politics? We unravel the unsettling narratives of Project 2025, spotlighting the influential conservative organizations and the persistent threats they pose to hard-won rights for women, African Americans, and the LGBTQ+ community. Our discussion dives into the shadows of political conservatism, questioning the ultimate goals of regressive movements that cloak their intentions under the guise of religious and political conservatism. By drawing historical parallels and examining the rise of the Christian nationalist movement since the Reagan era, we aim to expose the potential implications for labor rights and societal equality.

The boundaries between church and state are becoming increasingly blurred. We analyze the historical evolution of hate groups and the modern-day threats posed by organizations like the Heritage Foundation. With a focus on the First Amendment's Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses, we delve into the dangers of religious political lobbying and the need for religious organizations to prioritize community support over political donations. Our conversation serves as a critical examination of the separation of church and state, offering solutions to mitigate these threats and acknowledging the progress made by current leadership.

From the shifting political landscape to the stark contrasts between figures like Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, we explore the strain of economic policies on the middle class and the transformation of elections into contests of party loyalty. By examining restrictive voting laws and the changing dynamics of political integrity, we call for a reassessment of political platforms in light of the unsustainable nature of division and hatred. As we gear up for the holiday season, we also tease our next discussion on generational trauma, encouraging listeners to stay engaged and informed as active participants in the democratic process. Keep it real, maintain your sparkle, and let's navigate these turbulent times together. Peace.

KEEP IT PUNK, My Younglings!

Robin:

Welcome to the Kicked Can Generations podcast. I'm your host, Robin Duncan, along with our magnificent Jim Murphy.

JIm:

Greetings.

Robin:

Here's hoping that your October was spooky and fun, and now that we're reaching November, today we're going to discuss a couple topics that I think are a little spookier than Halloween.

JIm:

I come in on the really spooky parts.

Robin:

We're briefly going to discuss Project 2025 and also the upcoming election.

JIm:

Yay.

Robin:

Those who are not familiar with Project 2025, it is a manifesto, if you will, brought to you by the Heritage Foundation, the American First Policy Institute, the Federalist Society or, as we like to call it, the Trinity of Terror.

JIm:

Dun, dun dun.

Robin:

And it doesn't stop there because there's a hundred other-plus organizations involved with this as well. I like to call this the Tale of Two Jesuses Because you got the OG Jesus from the Bible and then, in about the 70s to about 2015, jesus has been kind of reworking himself, creating an alter ego that is nothing like the OG that we'll call Republican Jesus. This one does not feed the masses, he does not heal people unless he is getting a cut of the prophets, and the Be attitudes in the Bible is some straight up pussy shit, according to some of his followers. And as the telling of the tale goes from about 2015 to current day, this is where we're at. But make no mistakes, the Christian nationalist movement is strong and painfully white overtones. It's nothing more than a dusting off of the colonizer's playbook that dates way back. The British, I think, are probably the biggest users that come to mind. You know, ridding such lands of barbarians such as the savage Celts, the Native Americans and the Indians India. Taking piece of other people's culture and treating it as it was theirs.

Robin:

Now, the rise of the Christian National Movement really started with the Ronald Reagan era, where he gave huge support to people like James Dobson and Jerry Falwell.

JIm:

Also, don't forget Pat Robertson from the 700 Club.

Robin:

This leads to the rise of the moral majority in the 80s, creating a toxic religious superiority where they feel that they can save the world through superior spirituality by taking away the free will of everyone. But during this time period they became more opposed to abortion, became more militant in worming its way into politics and more and more lately it has been taken over by racism. Now, sadly, we have a lot of Congress members that are still in office from that time period. That's 50 years.

JIm:

Looking at you, Tom Cole.

Robin:

Also looking at you, Chuck Grassley, and we might want to put some stronger term limits in there, kind of solve this problem a little bit. But you know, what do I know? Now you need to lay down some important dates for you, just so you can get a time frame of when all this is happening and we will be discussing what can happen and hopefully lead to some possible solutions here. In 1973, roe versus Wade, which lasted until 2022, giving us 49 years of reproductive health care for women. In 1974 is when women were allowed to have credit cards, giving women 48 years of financial freedom for more, women were starting to work more and more at that time period. Now, in 1920, is when we got the right to vote for women. So 104 years of that. So 104 years of that.

Robin:

African Americans 1870, the 15th Amendment removed racial barriers to voting, but it wasn't really until 1965 with the Voting Act. That was only 154 years that slavery ended and only 59 years of voting rights. In 1964, the Civil Rights Act has given us 60 years of so-called better equality, but even still, we can do so much more than what we have.

Robin:

In 1969 was the Stonewall Riots for the LBGTQ+, so that's given 55 years of us trying to get better equality, but once again, the LBGTQ+ is still trying to fight for their rights to be heard. I feel we can do so much better than what we are currently doing. So this kind of shows you that there is really not a lot of time difference here. I feel as if we're just starting to get our footing in these rights and already somebody wants to come and take them away again. I'm not sure who needs to hear this, but rights are not a limited resource. Do you breathe? Are you alive? Then, baby, you got rights. So what exactly is the ultimate goal of the Heritage Foundation?

JIm:

World domination.

Robin:

To recolonize an already colonized country to where Christianity is the only religion. We know from their little manifesto that they want to return power back to the states, allow corporations to do whatever they want Eliminate federal jobs, increase discrimination across the board, especially for anyone they do not like or disagrees with their moral majority, restricting reproductive rights, limiting access to health care, decreasing what they call entit or what I like to call helping people out. That's kind of what I thought the original OG Christianity major policy was. That must be in my Trump Bible. You know that I could get for $59.99, wrapped in cellophane and touched by God. So if you guys need a ride to hell, jim and I are going to rent a party bus Because, living here in Oklahoma, we've been told that there's a special place in hell for us. So I think it would be rude for us to decline such VIP treatment and, you know, might as well show up in style. So let us know if you need a ride, guys. Okay.

JIm:

I got shotgun.

Robin:

So the key principles and highlights of the Project 2025 is...

JIm:

World Domination. I mean seriously, there's no other way to put it.

Robin:

They want to strip everything that you think of as your God-given right. Depends, on which God. So what they want to do with labor is that they want to cut overtime, they want to cut job creation programs, they want to manipulate the data that businesses rely on to keep the economy functioning by consolidating agencies, and they also want to eliminate child labor protections.

JIm:

Now this is where I get to have fun chiming in, because the labor aspect of this for me, hits home, especially with the fact that they want to do away with the labor unions, and most people think of labor unions like the Teamsters, the Auto Workers Union, the Airline Unions. It also includes groups like the IAFF, which is the International Firefighters Union. The striking ability we have is limited at best, but if you're going to take away everything, then you already have a shortage of firefighters and paramedics. You're just going to make it even worse. The child labor protection specifically. What they're wanting to do, especially in certain states, is make it to where not only can kids work longer hours during school year and on school nights, but also work in jobs like coal mine, meatpacking plant, butcher places the jobs that back in the 20s and 30s, immigrant kids did because there was nothing else available to them, and we figured out pretty quick that that was a bad idea.

Robin:

The other thing that they want to do is they want to get rid of assistance programs. They want to decrease or completely eliminate altogether food assistance. Eliminate Head Start. Eliminate disability benefits, especially for vets. Remove safety nets for farmers. Eliminate public transportation projects.

JIm:

And for those of you that think oh well, you know I don't participate in food assistance or Head Start or any of these. You don't right now, but you don't know what may happen further down the road. Nobody sets out wanting to be on food stamps. Nobody sets out wanting to be on disability.

Robin:

But then you have things like the pandemic that come up and all of a sudden our inflation costs are through the roof and I got news for you.

JIm:

If you think the price of your eggs is expensive or bacon is expensive, now take away those farm subsidies and see what happens.

Robin:

It's going to be astronomical. Folks, healthcare and reproductive rights supporting companies charging for what they want for medications or services, ending medications for abortions even though people use it for other things. Privatizing Medicare and HIPAA may as well not even exist.

JIm:

Oh, hipaa won't exist the programs that they want to roll out. They will literally track a young girl's menstrual cycle and know when when she's menstruating, when she's not, when she might be pregnant, when she's not, if she had a miscarriage. They'll have it all documented it the amount of government interference into your health care system that this would allow. I don't see how any Republican who screams for limited government could think that this was a good idea.

Robin:

They also want to enable discrimination across the board, making it harder to serve underserved communities for medical assistance, as the Head Start and other programs. Start and other programs decreasing gender equality, increasing discrimination against LBGTQ plus in regards to adoption and foster care.

JIm:

For a group of people that keep screaming about it's all for the kids, it's all for the kids, it's all for the kids. Ok then, that's all the kids, every single one of them. You have couples out there, you have families out there that want these children, and because you don't agree with their whatever religious, ethnic, sexual background, you're going to deny this child-loving home. Well, that's how very Republican, jesus, of you.

Robin:

They also want to eliminate government or consolidate government agencies that overlook corporate America that keep them in line.

JIm:

Yeah and honestly the scary part is most of those agencies, agencies that overlook corporate America and keep them in line. Yeah, and honestly it's, it's. The scary part is is is most of those agencies they don't have a lot of teeth. To begin with, I mean, the EPA can go after polluters to a certain extent. Then the justice department has to get involved.

Robin:

But they want to eliminate the EPA, NOAA. I don't understand why they've hit rid of.

JIm:

NOAA, yeah, I don't either.

Robin:

Is it just because of the environmental?

JIm:

I guess they don't believe in that. Yeah, it's another one of if we don't talk about it, it doesn't exist.

Robin:

Oh, that works really well.

JIm:

Yeah.

Robin:

They want to expand oil and natural gas on public lands and water, which is going to increase health care for all of us. And then we come to education Cutting federal loans for higher education, zero protections against discriminations across the board, especially LBGTQ+, to push their ideological agendas. I mean I can turn directly to the Oklahoma Department of Education and the man in charge himself, Ryan motherfucking Walters.

JIm:

Ryan Walters needs to be, at the very least, impeached. The list of lawsuits that are stacking up against him, that are going to drain money from the taxpayers' wallets of the state of Oklahoma, which inevitably will come out of the education slush fund of the state of Oklahoma.

Robin:

Now, Ryan Walter, if you want to see what the Heritage Foundation is doing, please pay more attention to what's going on in Oklahoma and their Department of Education, because this is what's going to happen, and roll out nationwide if they get their way.

JIm:

Also check out PragerU's website to give you an idea of exactly what kind of curriculum they have in mind, because it is a very sanitized version of history.

Robin:

So you need to be aware, folks. Let's just put it that way, please. I do encourage you. Look at Oklahoma. We're 49th in Education. This could be rolling out across the country. So congratulations, welcome to PragerU.

Robin:

Now they also want to eliminate and replace federal jobs with those who are loyal to the Heritage Foundation and their ideals. They want to force out experts and eliminate agencies or combine them so they don't actually work anymore. So the Chevron Act, which was eliminated by the Supreme Court, as well as unsecuring security clearance to people who have no damn right to know any of this shit, is now going to have access to it.

JIm:

Oh, absolutely. I mean, you're literally talking like the young Air National Guard teenager that got a hold of, and was sharing, top secret information that he wasn't supposed to have access to, but he gained access to it, just for a clerical error and a slip-up. This isn't a clerical error or a slip-up. This is literally, we're giving the fox the keys to the hen house and telling him to guard it for the freaking night.

Robin:

So the Heritage Foundation, as well as the America First Policy Institute, who is already trying to rebrand Project 2025, by the way, I wish I was joking on this, but I am not Look it up.

JIm:

Yeah, they've rebranded it as the 2025 Guide to Leadership.

Robin:

We've already got one marketing redo here, so just be aware. But they also have a lobbying component to their plan and I swear to God that they have these bills already written up and what they are trying to do is just get them into the hands of who is in power to get the ball rolling. So a senator or a congressperson doesn't even have to do anything. They just have to hand in the homework assignment that they give them, which is why I think some of them are doing it, because it looks like they're doing something when actually they're doing nothing.

Robin:

Now I want to take a look at their component of lobbying, because when Donald Trump was elected in 2016 just to give you an idea of how much they've increased their lobbying since Donald Trump was in office, so, like the year before Donald Trump came in, they had 39 bills that they were sponsoring. Then, in 2016, when Donnie hits, we got 54. 2017, we have 43. 2018, we've got 54. 2019, we have 92. Now we're coming up on 2020 now. So remember they had a little bit more on their plate at that time period, so they weren't really passing like a lot of legislation. So I think that a lot of the legislation that they handed in during that year actually moved down to the next year, because in 2020 they had 74 bills, but in 2021, even though Joe Biden just got in, they had 105. A 105. Then in 2022 they had 84, 2023 they have 95 and in 2024 already we have 94 bills that they are trying to get through.

Robin:

Are you seeing the problem here? Now, the reason I want to discuss this before talking about the election is that you all need to be aware of this, that this problem is not going anywhere. In fact, it feels more like they are just going to rebrand themselves, like racism has over the years, because Jim and I grew up and the Klan was still around with their hooded robes at that point. Then, in the 80s and 90s, they rebranded to skinheads. Now what was it 2016? We had tiki torches and Hawaiian shirts. So you need to keep your eyes open, because this shit is not going anywhere.

JIm:

Still all the same. 14 words.

Robin:

And do you mind sharing those 14 words?

Robin:

Google it.

JIm:

If you don't know what it means, Google 14 words.

Robin:

I know that they love their Bible verses and also they really do love assuming what our founding fathers think. So here is Matthew 22: 21. "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's." Man's law and God's law are separate.

JIm:

As has been attended since day one.

Robin:

They are not supposed to cross. Okay, and then we also have a letter from Thomas Jefferson. This is his Danbury Baptist Association letter of 1802, and I will post this letter from the Library of Congress so you can read it in its entirety on our social media pages. Okay, but I will read the second paragraph to you right now." Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate power of the government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people, which declared that their legislation should make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting a free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state, adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of consciousness, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he will have no natural rights in opposition to his social duties."

JIm:

Powerful words.

Robin:

Powerful words. So how do we solve a problem like the Heritage Foundation? (feel free to sing it!) Well, you got to create a law that separates church and state. Religion is already protected under the Constitution, under the First Amendment, in two ways, which Thomas Jefferson was talking about in his Danbury Letters. First, we have the Establishment Clause that government cannot establish a religion. I think the Heritage Foundation forgot that part. So in order for them to establish Christianity as a religion of America, they have to destroy the Constitution, which will lead to, ultimately, a fascist society where they want sole/soul control over people, and by making Christianity their one true religion.

JIm:

By the way, that sounds vaguely familiar. I can't remember where it was that they wanted to do that again. Oh yes, ISIS.

Robin:

Then you also have the exercise clause, which protects a citizen's right to practice any and I do emphasize any religion they choose to practice.

JIm:

But they want it to go away. They literally have modeled Project 2025, after the Taliban.

Robin:

This sounds like I'm beating up religion, but trust me, I'm really not. I actually admire religion for its core value. It just wants us to be decent and good human beings. If you actually practice what it preaches and at your core you are a good human being, you wouldn't feel the need for what the Heritage Foundation and these other organizations are trying to do. They need to control. Control comes from fear. They fear that they are not relevant because their numbers of people attending churches are declining.

Robin:

Well, take a look at yourself. There, my church organizations. You are excluding people. We're still trying to deal with the priest pedophile scandals. Now your churches are worshiping at an alter ego, republican Jesus, because helping people is pussy shit, as, according to one of your church goers shouted out to a priest who was discussing the Be attitudes, which is just to Be Kind. Yeah, my church organizations, you might want to look at fixing yourself first before trying to force everyone else into your chaos.

Robin:

So if you create this bill to ensure pastors, board members and governing bodies of the church entity itself are not allowed to take any part in any political organization, no political lobbying, no political PACs.

JIm:

But if a person wants to make a donation, that's fine. But a religious person wants to make a donation, that's fine, but if a religious organization wants to, no.

Robin:

Because our founding fathers started this country because we were getting taxed without representation in England. So if churches want representation in the political government, then how about we tax them? It's pretty simple. Absolutely, you think that you're part of the system. Well then, okay, buddy, then you pay up. You're no longer considered a church and you are no longer considered tax-free.

JIm:

And at the point that religious groups are allowed to continue to lobby, then I mean, you never know, the IRA could start lobbying.

Robin:

So if they want to lose their tax-exempt status back, then they need to take a certain percentage of their ties that they get and they need to take that and help out their local communities.

JIm:

Honestly, the way I see it is at the point that you have a church that has $5 million that they can donate to some political organization. No, no, that's $5 million that you can use in the community to help the homeless and the people that need to be fed and clothed, and the shit that you're supposed to be doing.

Robin:

That's our solution for part of that problem. Whether the government does that, who the fuck knows? Like I said, this is also part therapy here for us.

Robin:

This is leading up to the election. This is leading up to the election, but first I would really actually honestly like to thank Joe for starting to actually fix some of the things that needed to be straightened out a long time, like student loans. That was an impossibly predatory situation that has become impossible for our young people to get out from underneath that debt. I am personally one who actually benefited from that and I would like to say thank you, my man. Now also your infrastructure bill. That has helped so many issues that have long, long been neglected that I would like to point out that the Republicans voted against and are out here during the election to make sure that they take the credit for it. So I'm asking you, america, if they are not voting the way that you want them to vote, why are you re-electing them?

JIm:

Just because it's easy to check the Republicans-only box. Looking at you, Oklahoma Doesn't make it right. Own every single vote that you cast. Check every single box, not just one, but vote them out. (Please lets stop single party voting ballots, that is how Oklahoma got Ryan Walters. Not joking.)

Robin:

There is one question, though, that keeps repeating in my head this whole entire fucking election cycle. And my dear Republican Party, what the fuck do you stand for? Honestly, when I was a kid, you were for family values. You made sure that the middle class was strong, our economy was top of the world, you supported our vets, or at least you acted like you did. Then you gave tax breaks to the rich, promising the middle class that, oh, those will trickle down to you, but instead the taxes on the middle class have increased. You've allowed banks to do unsustainable loans that have crashed the housing market and the banking markets.

Robin:

Now young people can't even afford a home, and you wonder why young people aren't having any kids. You've made it impossible for them to afford a family, and now you want life to be all about work. How much emotional support am I going to be able to give a kid if all I'm doing is thinking about work? I can't give them any emotional support. All I'm giving them is maybe some financial support, but even that, you haven't increased the wages since 2019, so that's 15 years and a pandemic on top of that. You can't expect families to keep doing everything in your power to keep afloat, when you are not going to help them.

Robin:

It may have been that I was young and perceived that you actually cared about the military, especially around the World War I and II remembrances, but instead my parents and grandparents, you all, have run open arms to create this ideal fascist, christian theocratic government. I know that you can feel the change and I know that the change is coming and it scares you, but you also got to know. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Come here, WE ALL DIE SOMEDAY! A nd, in the immortal words of my elders, to show you the proper respect, I am going to quote you directly "Suck it up". I also have another secret that I will share with you. You may want to come a little closer for this one, because I want to make sure that you really understand this one. Okay, you are still fucking alive. I don't know. Why not, maybe try and enjoy your life. Maybe try setting down the hatred of everything and everyone, because I'm looking at you, my parents and grandparents, and that looks like a hell of a heavy load of hatred that you're carrying around. Do you really want to carry all that? Why don't you set the fucking hatred down a little bit?

Robin:

Because you didn't like the choices that you made in your life or how things didn't work out for you. For some reason you didn't like someone because they're different, or the other people are living their lives the way that they want to, and you chose comfort instead of facing fears of rejection and what others people would think of you or even thinking maybe you're not good enough. Does that mean the entire country has to suffer from your lack of authenticity within yourself?

Robin:

Woo, I think I just got on my soapbox there A little too hard there. But seriously, republicans during the Civil War you wanted to end slavery and have more federal regulations, and Democrats were for states' rights and pro-slavery. Now we're the complete opposite. How the fuck did we go from passing all that legislation and then, in a hundred years now you want that all to go away and completely back the idea that democracy itself isn't working for us anymore. So we're gonna be the only ones in charge and we need to restrict everything and there's only going to be one religion. And to the women who support the Heritage Foundation or any of their offshoots, I'm going to let you in on a serious secret. Because, honey, just because you helped organize and pay for all that shit does not mean that you are the exception to the rule that women will be seen and not heard. You're not. They will expect you to be Adam's good little rib. Silent.

Robin:

Another change that happened over our 50 years, is elections used to be about how the best and most qualified person for the job. The election cycle is where you heard about their policies, what they wanted to do, how was their personal character? Did it align with your beliefs? Now it seems like it's party over logic. I noticed this around 2009 when W was leaving. Obama was kind of coming in and the formation of the Tea Party began.

Robin:

This is when I feel the Republican Party lost itself in hatred, bigotry and fear, and they have been buried under that weight since. And you have to figure out what you stand for, my Republicans, because if that is your only platform, I'm out. The rest of the country should be too, because the entire country cannot support the weight of that much bigotry, fear and hate. So figure out your shit, republicans. Take it to the shit store, take it to the shit museum, I don't care, but figure your shit out.

Robin:

But anyway, the fun doesn't even stop there. We still have a few states like during the election that kind of changed some of their laws. Of course some of those haven't quite fully taken effect yet, but Jim will kind of cover that here in just a second.

JIm:

Georgia.

Robin:

Georgia.

JIm:

Georgia. Their big bill was SB 189, and you've already got several groups filed lawsuits to stop the enforcement of this bill. Georgia's had a bunch of these. One of them was the no food, no water in the election line that got shot down before it ever was enacted. There have been two that were unfortunately enacted. One of them enables private individuals to challenge the eligibility of voters whose address is determined to be quote, unquote non-residential. This is despite the fact that Georgia does not have a residing residential address to be able to vote.

JIm:

Now for people that don't understand this, this yes, it does affect homeless people. That is the biggest group that it affects is homeless people, but it also affects women in domestic shelters that are trying to keep their significant other from finding out their address. Also, certain drug rehabilitation centers are business addresses, not residential addresses. Even though you are residing there, you can still vote. After a certain point in recovery, you can still vote. After a certain point in recovery, you can still vote. But these people are being completely excluded by this law and discriminated against. Grandma can't vote because she's in the nursing home, because her address is no longer considered a residential address. Again, like I said, you have the AFL-CIO and several other groups that have filed numerous lawsuits.

Robin:

So I feel like we've spent a lot of time in the dark, so let's move to the light, shall we?

JIm:

Head towards the light, Carol Ann.

Robin:

Now we're going to be looking at both candidates, comparing them. Like they're going for the job interview, okay. Or like you're dating them.

JIm:

Oh God.

Robin:

Yeah, we will be looking at their personalities. We're going to compare their family lives, their policies. We're going to compare them together and some, like financial, we will separate it and that will be the last thing that we discuss today. So first up, we've got little Donnie. Little Donnie has three wives, five kids, eight to nine grandkids Well, almost nine grandkids, Inherited his wealth, has had four bankruptcies associated with his business One in 91, one in 92, one in 04, and one in 09.

Robin:

Now Kamala has had one husband, two stepkids, all later in life in 2014,. Has worked as a lawyer, worked in the city, state and federal government. Just in those sentences alone tells me a lot of information.

Robin:

Little Donnie is always looking for his next big thing. That's what you get going through three wives. He really doesn't act interested in his family, his entire life. He seems very unsatisfied and I kind of wonder if him getting everything and never really earning anything really is kind of part of that, plus his four bankruptcies, one of which I'd like to mention was a casino still don't know how you do that.

Robin:

Who the hell do you bankrupt a casino? My dude. The house always wins.

JIm:

It's impressive. I mean that takes effort.

Robin:

This tells me you're not really good at business. I take a look at her and it's just kind of like she was more focused on her career until later in life when she found someone. Not her kids, but took part in raising them so she can handle conflict and can adapt. Her work speaks for itself in the government and in legal standing. Whereas I would like to add that little Donnie has 34 felony convictions. Which, if I'm being honest here, how doesn't that automatically disqualify you as a candidate? Is beyond me. But I guess that's one of the solutions that we need to add. A no convicted felon can run for public office, for president of the United States, but we actually have no law in the book like this. Because here we are, a convicted felon is running for the highest office and no one gives a shit. Blows my mind. It blows my fucking mind.

Robin:

Also, notice how they both speak in their speeches Like Kamala is always using we, whereas Donnie uses mostly I. That Kamala is more we, the country, and we are more served to the people.

Robin:

Donnie's just a classic narcissist who can only think of himself and loves the fact that he can say anything and his core base followers love him for it and believe everything as truth. He tells you who he is in his book from the 1980s, the Art of the Deal, and this is a direct quote from the book. "I would also like to add the final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play people's fantasies. People do not always think big themselves, but they get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe in something is the biggest, the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It is an innocent form of exaggeration and is a very effective form of promotion." So, in other words, donnie, you lie.

JIm:

Baffle them with bullshit.

Robin:

Donnie has tariffs and Kamala is armed with help for small business startups. I think the news really covered this one well. I don't think we need to spend much time on it. But I would like you to be aware that Kamala will actually cite which economists agree with her plan. That will work. When Trump can't even name one economist in any of his recorded speeches that thinks raising the tariffs is a good idea to try and get out of inflation. The reason why is because there is no one who thinks that raising tariffs is a good idea.

Robin:

So let's discuss the VPs before we start talking about Donna or Donnie and Kamala separately. Now you need to remember this from your civics class, if they're still fucking teaching that. (by the way) I know that they don't in Oklahoma. But the VP does not set policy. They only support policy and work across the aisle to get bills passed. So no, she didn't set any policies during Biden's presidency and don't start acting like everyone has. Because that's not how any of this shit works. Okay, may I recommend picking up a book or an audiobook on how the government is supposed to work. Now, how you think it should are two different things there, my folks.

Robin:

So let's talk about JD Vance. I can honestly say I have no idea what this man stands for. He will say whatever it is to the highest bidder, if it will get him ahead, that's what he is going to support. How are you supposed to respect that? But what he doesn't realize is that when you live unauthentically, you really stand for nothing. Because you don't stand in your beliefs, because you have none. Someone is paying you to have their beliefs and their ideals, and JD, you better hope to God he doesn't get elected, because if he's going to throw you under the bus so fast, you will not know what happens until it is 10 late, plus just the way he talks about his family.

JIm:

Oh yeah, he wants to deny he even has a fucking family at this point.

Robin:

And then Tim Wall, which is like every dad I remember growing up. He is a man led by the heart. He has strong beliefs and convictions. He knows how to work across the aisle, i f you will, working with both parties to achieve a goal and pass meaningful legislation that will actually help the American people, that will actually help the American people. As you know, I'm an empath who also has ADHD and on the spectrum, and knowing that his son, who is mostly nonverbal, and he was able to be in the stadium with all those people and all that noise and be able to vocalize how proud of his dad he was in that kind of environment, blew me away in how much they supported Gus.

JIm:

Absolutely.

Robin:

Showed me that he is a caring man who only has the best intentions for his family and for this country. Now let's look at the top three donors of Kamala. For what differences? For Trump's? Because 4 through 14 are the same as Donnie's, so they're just hedging their bets. But Kamala's largest donors are the Future Forward USA. Chauncey McLean is the president. The big thing that they want to make sure is that the Democrats have a lot of advertising. They have donated around about $57 million, so just to keep the math simple. Another one is the American Bridge. 21st Century. Founder is David Brock, Current president is Pat Dennis, and I'm going to round that one down to like $31 million. Then we've got Bloomberg LP. Current CEO is Vlad Klitschko. Founders are Mike Bloomberg, Thomas Secunda, Charles Zeger and Duncan.

Robin:

McMillan, and they've done it around around 19 million. What does concern me about the 14 that are hedging their bets is how many are involved in the Heritage Foundations and the other organizations that we talked about. So now let's talk to Donnie. Donnie is a bit of a different candidate. I'm going to get some shit for saying this, but I really do feel sorry for these people who get wrapped up in these conspiracies so much that they've abandoned their families and loved ones to pursue them. I can't tell you how much that saddens me to see that happen to people. I hope that you can join us in reality sometime soon here, guys, but you gotta set it down. It's getting too heavy for you. Just set that conspiracy theory down and now back to our regularly scheduled program. But as Gen Xers we grew up on, like Kennedy conspiracy theories, the moon landing, like fuck, the Bermuda Triangle. I mean, the only part of the Bermuda Triangle that's true is that planes and ships went down, but the reasons are, like you know, rogue wave. Well, that could actually be real, but like aliens, or you know time vortex texts or portals black holes

Robin:

yeah, or the, the kraken. Let's go back to in the in the way back machine here, jim. Let's go back to trump versus hillary, where what we have? An illuminati like cabal of members of the deep state in a pedophilic pizza party where they drink adrenochrome from aborted babies I think there were vampires in there somewhere. But the pieces of truth in this, because at least the Bermuda Triangle had a piece of truth. The moon landing had a piece of truth. They landed on the moon. Conspiracy theories. Well, Kennedy did get shot, but why and how? Well, that's the mystery that's wrapped in the enigma. But I would need to know that in 2015, Virginia Giuffre's filed a defamation lawsuit against Maxwell and Epstein. So let me remind you again who the pedophile was. I don't think that was a drag queen. Anyways. But the other part of truth there is this Illuminati cabal. Well, the Illuminati itself was actually a church organization. What is the Heritage Foundation?

JIm:

A church organization. A church organization.

Robin:

Dum, dum dum. This is where we get into the bullshit folks. He just wants to keep his ass out of jail at this point, which is really the only reason why he's running again. He thinks that if he is elected he can pardon himself and make things all better. Goddamn America. We deserve a better class of criminals. I feel like Small Hands Bugsy from the Looney tunes is a fucking goddamn criminal mastermind compared to this shit, Jesus and I do mean republican Jesus so let's wrap this bitch up in a pretty bow and talk about his donors. Donnie has six top donors that are not on Kamala's donor list that we have to talk about, but the rest of don's list and Kamala's matches, so we're not going to give them quite the same amount of time, but you do need to understand that they're just hedging their bets on the voting crap wheel of dysfunction. So who are these top six donors, jim?

JIm:

Well, we've already mentioned, not only is he Timothy Milton,(donating 125 million) not only is he a Heritage First Foundation member, but he's also on the board of the America First Policy Institute, which is his second largest donor at $16 million. So again, he's hedging his bets there. He's on both sides of the fence. America First is the America First Policy Institute that's headed by Linda McMahon, recently divorced from Vince McMahon, and she is very much gung-ho PragerU. She loves the whole idea of homeschooling and churches being involved in the schools.

JIm:

Hendrix Holding they're the anomaly and literally the only issue I can find in their other. Donating is to a pro-Israel company that's actually the Israeli Military Institute of Technology, bigelow Aerospace. Robert Bigelow is a very unique individual and all I will say about him is he used to own Skinwalker Ranch. Used to own Skinwalker Ranch. He is known to befriend people on the far fringes of the far right, but at the same time he firmly believes in aliens. I'm sure they're of a specific hue when they get here. The Perlmutter Foundation is it's nothing. I mean, it's literally. Again, it's pro-Israel, but not to the extreme. As the Hendrick Holding Company is Uniline Inc. There is very little office supply, sanitation, bulk items like that that they don't have their hands in. I guess it's actually kind of creepy how much they have their hands in.

Robin:

So what does that mean for you, my little punks? It means that Donnie is essentially a whore who goes to the highest bidder, and the clear winner in that is the Heritage Foundation and Corporate America, where they want Donnie to be the CEO of America and let them do whatever the fuck they want.

Robin:

Who ends up paying that price? We do. We, the people. We will pay for that shit. We will lose our constitutional freedoms because they will have to destroy that before they can put the one nation under Republican Jesus. So can I get a hell to the NO?

Robin:

This is why we need you to vote. This is why you need to give a shit. My little younglings, it's our choice. Remember there are more of you than there are of them, but you got to make a choice. And remember, not choosing is a choice, and if you choose that path, I'm going to slap some straight up playground Gen X wisdom on you. "You cannot bitch about anything, about any side, because you didn't have the balls to choose a side. So please remember, we all have to choose and, my younglings, I know this sounds daunting and kind of ew, but we need to get more involved in this.

Robin:

Democracy requires effort and I will be the first to admit, as a Gen Xer, I hate this shit. I once again here, I am calling it out and asking for help from my brothers and sisters here. This is about hope. This is about creating OUR future. Their time is done. We need to stand in our power and push back against the hatred, because, god damn, it has been 50 years of this shit.

Robin:

Let's change some goddamn channels, shall we? It's our hope that this has helped you along your way in making a better decision for this election season, but please don't forget to overanalyze your local senators and your house members that are up for re-election as well. If they are not voting the way you want them to vote, what do you do? You vote them out. Go forth, vote, be sparkly little entities that I know that you are, and next time that we come back, it will probably be just before Thanksgiving. I might drop the episode a little bit earlier, but we're going to be discussing generational trauma, you know, just in time for the holidays, so you can sit there and analyze your family and going oh dear God, did I come from that? Yeah, you did so. Until next time, my little punks.

JIm:

Peace.

Robin:

Keep it safe, keep it real and keep it punk. Good night.

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